Why ‘200 Philistine Foreskins’ Matter

By Adam Brown –

I have been preaching through the Rise of David in 1 Samuel. In last Sunday’s preaching text (1 Samuel 18:12-30), David very shrewdly wormed his way into the royal house by collecting on his reward for killing Goliath (see 1 Samuel 17:25). For more about this, you can listen to the sermon, David the Supplanter, on the Southshore website.

In this article, I want to focus in on a detail that does not often receive enough attention. It certainly did not get an appropriate treatment in Sunday’s sermon, except to explain the historical and literary allusions it presented, along with the political implications it created.

200 Philistine Foreskins

The detail I am referring to is David’s delivery of 200 Philistine foreskins to his future father-in-law as the dowry for Princess Michal. Now, hold on a minute, Are we really going to talk about 200 Philistine foreskins? Yes, yes we are. Why? Well, you’ll see, but first the text:

1 Samuel 18:25–27 (ESV)

25Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’ ” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines.

26And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired,

27David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Notice a number of things in this text:

  1. Philistine foreskins as a bride-price is King Saul’s idea. Let us remember that, at this point in his life, King Saul is demon possessed. Therefore, this is a demonic idea.
  2. Saul’s motive is made clear. He is banking on the fact that it is not easy to collect one Philistine foreskin, let alone one hundred! Philistines, and men in general, tend to be fairly protective of that which is rightly theirs to protect.
  3. David agrees to the demonic, and down-right-gross, dowry and he delivers double.

Why does David agree?

Put simply, David agrees because this is the price of his rise within the royal house. If he can deliver the foreskins, he will get his princess. If he gets his princess, he can make a legitimate claim on the throne. And, with a claim on the throne, he is only a few shrewd moves away from checkmate.

Since we all love David, we collectively shudder at Saul’s ill conceived plot, but give David a pass, suggesting he had been backed into a corner. 

In truth, however, this is far from the truth. David need not rise to the throne of Israel This Way. There is nothing in the text that hints that this is the only way David could have achieved his endgame. 

Moreover, there is nothing in the text to hint that God thought this was a good idea. Indeed, and this is important, there is no divine sanction given. In fact, all textual evidence seems to suggest the contrary, that this foreskin-collection is a demonic idea and, therefore, rightfully deemed Satanic. It is hatched, after all, in the raving mind of a demon possessed madman.

Nevertheless, David plays along and, like Jacob’s double dowry of 14 years instead of 7, David collects, and counts-out, 200.

How did David get those 200 foreskins?

He killed for them. Presumably, each in hand-to-hand cold-blooded murder. Old men in their beds. Young men on their way to the supermarket. Maybe even a few boys coming to or from school. Husbands taken from their wives. Fathers never making it home for supper with their families. Sons never again able to honour their mothers. 200.

This is what 200 looks like:











Why did David do it?

Well, because David wanted to be king and to be king he thought he needed a princess. It’s heartbreaking really. It makes me shudder and, even now, I can feel a lump bobbing in the back of my throat.

Each foreskin represents a life taken. Not by old age. Not by natural disaster. Not even by war. Or cancer. Or accident. No, each life was taken by David, on the jealous whim of Old King Saul.

Hope and Grace

And herein is the hope for us: If God can extend love and grace to a man like David – if God can establish the kingdom of Jesus Christ through the merciless murder of 200 Philistine men and boys – then the depth of His grace is boundless.

And the same grace that fell to David is available to us all, through the Son of David, the Lord Jesus Christ. Praise be to God.

13 thoughts on “Why ‘200 Philistine Foreskins’ Matter

  1. David had already been anointed by Samuel to be Israels next king. He didn’t need to do anything to make that happen. If you read the story you will find that David could have killed Saul twice, but refused to raise his hand against the Lord’s anointed.

    I think your ideas about David and his character are misconstrued.

    If Israel had done what they were supposed to originally supposed to do there wouldn’t have been a Philistine for anyone to kill.


  2. I don’t think David just went out and grabbed every Philistine he could get and killed the man to get the man’s foreskin. Let’s remember that Israel had been t war with the Philistines quite often even in the Book of Judges. Now when King Saul had first met David Israel was fighting the Philistines.

    Israel wasn’t exactly losing but they weren’t exactly winning either. They were basically at a standoff because of one Philistine named Goliath who was taunting the Israel soldiers for forty days daring them to come out and take him on. Who took on this big bully? David of course. He killed their hero and then the Philistines fled.

    David was now the hero. I can’t imagine the Philistines not wanting some kind of revenge. I am sure there were other smaller battles we just don’t read about. I’m sure some Philistine would have enjoyed being the hero of killing Israel’s hero David. Remember King Saul was hoping David would die at the hands of a Philistines. So I’m guessing that these foreskins were the foreskins of Philistines that had died in a battle fighting David. Just a theory.


    1. Yea. The israelites wondered the wilderness for 40 years, Jesus fasted for 40 days, it rained for 40 days and nights during the flood as you’ve mentioned here goliath taunted israel for 40 days. Why do you assume that to be the case? Thanks


  3. There are 7 things about Doris’ reply that trouble me: 1) I don’t think; 2) let’s remember; 3) I can’t imagine; 4) I am sure; 5) we just don’t read about; 6) so I’m guessing; 7) just a theory. It’s amazing that the Lord cares for us to take pot luck shots at the truth of His word. “I THINK” this is such an absurd historical account that the real lesson is probably far more obscured in all the theories He allows us all to impose upon holy Scripture. Did anyone actually give any thought of the delicate surgery required for circumcision & really “think” that the Israelite army would take the time to perform it 200 TIMES?!?!? Regardless of how the male Philistines were gathered, “I’M SURE” it was more of a mass slaughter as every foreskin was rather just WACKED OFF than surgically removed. Sometimes Scripture allows to use our heads more than our imaginations.


  4. Saul wasn’t persistently demon possessed. The bible says that it would come on him at certain times, there’s nothing in the text stating that this idea of his was demonic. Saul simply wanted David to get killed by the philistines by trying to fulfill this mission, it’s as simple as that.

    Also these 2 nations were at war with each other, these were probably soldiers that David and his men killed, not innocent people.


  5. The thing that kills me is, that you, the preacher, have this obsession with foreskins, and want to make it all sound “Biblical.” Don’t you think that God’s book, if it were divinely inspired, would not contain such filthy stuff as this? You have the ability to walk away from all this constant nit-picking of the Bible, and preach simple ethics. The Dalai Lama uas summed it all up by saying that his religion is just plain KINDNESS.


    1. The specificity in details and transparency into man’s fallen and consistently unholy (unethical) behavior, are but two evidences of God’s authorship of the Bible. The Dalai Lama and his opinions do not explain the real how’s or why’s of life – but only various ways humanity can strive to accend and ‘become’ something greater. The good news of the Bible is the Creator revealed our inability to earn His acceptance so He paid the price of rebellion against His law for us. I can’t earn anything, but I can accept the gift of grace, which then changes how Imlive.


  6. Lol this is why I ripped up my bible at around age 15. When I was able to break free from my parents ( not my) religion. Nothing in the Bible is even relevant to what is going on today. Just some fairy tale stories. Most behind gross one like these. You have to wonder why these Christian nut jobs follow it or if they even teach their kids about the dark/ perverted verses in there. No they sugar coat and don’t.


  7. Mr. Brown, Your descriptions of David’s character contradict 1 Samuel 13:14. No one is “good” for all of humanity has wandered unto their own appetites (as two of the comments illustrate), but God saw the heart and desire of a shepherd boy who was not self-righteous, not self-seeking, and would be coachable and repentant even in his failures.

    Just as when the Lord sought Adam and invited him to admit his sin in the garden rather than hide and try to cover himself, the Lord saw such a heart in David who would respond to the Lord’s leadership and discipline. The relationship with my child who is quicker to acknowledge their rebellion and try and change is different than with another who is much more strong-willed and selfish. I love both, but one is more open to interaction and even has more liberty due to their responsibility and desire to obey.


  8. “And herein is the hope for us: If God can extend love and grace to a man like David – if God can establish the kingdom of Jesus Christ through the merciless murder of 200 Philistine men and boys – then the depth of His grace is boundless.”

    This is twisted, monstrous thinking. God extends love and grace to a serial murderer because it suits his purpose. Heinous.


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